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Vanelier

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PostSubject: The Tenets of Lloth   The Tenets of Lloth EmptyFri Jul 06, 2012 11:59 pm

1. Fear is as strong as steel, while love and respect are soft, useless feelings that none can lean on.

2. All drow who do not worship Lolth must be converted or destroyed.

3. All weak and rebellious drow must be weeded out.

4. All who impugn the faith must perish.

5. Males or slaves of other races who act independently of Lolth's dictates (and those of other priests) must be sacrificed to Lolth.

6.Those of the faithful whose loyalty is weak must be eliminated.

7.Children are to be raised as loyal worshipers of Lolth, and each family should produce at least one priestess to serve the Spider Queen better than the last.

8. Arachnids of all sorts are to be revered, and anyone who mistreats or kills a spider must die.
(Note: Male spiders however may be used for food.)


// Please sticky this//

// Note: These are the 8 Tenets. the 5 Pillars of Lloth are her Domains, which are what is listed in the Dark Seldarine sticky.//


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PostSubject: Re: The Tenets of Lloth   The Tenets of Lloth EmptySat Jul 07, 2012 1:35 am

*edited by myself*


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PostSubject: Re: The Tenets of Lloth   The Tenets of Lloth EmptySat Jul 07, 2012 2:28 am

OOC: Don't forget the local alteration that certain male spiders may be eaten!
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PostSubject: Re: The Tenets of Lloth   The Tenets of Lloth EmptySat Jul 07, 2012 1:31 pm

Edit made, forgot I had to edit it when I recited them in game to account for such a thing. >.>

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PostSubject: Re: The Tenets of Lloth   The Tenets of Lloth EmptySat Jul 07, 2012 3:40 pm

Menollai wrote:
OOC: Don't forget the local alteration that certain male spiders may be eaten!

How do drow tell if they are male or female?

Under the Spoiler is longish from
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PostSubject: Re: The Tenets of Lloth   The Tenets of Lloth EmptySat Jul 07, 2012 3:54 pm

///If one studies spiders, one can tell if they are male or female based on a number of things, like coloring, size, and body shape, especially if one knows the differences between species.///
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PostSubject: Re: The Tenets of Lloth   The Tenets of Lloth EmptySat Jul 07, 2012 4:09 pm

As with a lot of canon information, that comes from a conflict of information between multiple sources. In this case:

Faiths and Pantheons wrote:
Dogma: .....Revere Arachnids of all kinds, those who kill or mistreat a spider must die.

Drow of the Underdark wrote:
The Drow have no particular taboo against killing spiders, but they don't make a habit of doing so for no apparent reason.
Infact, despite (or perhaps because of)their reverence for these arachnids, spiders make up a regular portion of the Drow diet. They are rarely the main course, but instead are consumed as a symbolic portion of the meal, usually at the beginning - almost the equivalent of asking Lolth's grace.

As for identifying them...males of arachnid species are usually smaller, and a trained eye can identify them fairly easily - the presence and number of palps, for example.
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PostSubject: Re: The Tenets of Lloth   The Tenets of Lloth EmptySat Jul 07, 2012 4:42 pm

The problem is Tibus, the first one was heavily popular all the way even in 1st edition. That one book you pointed out Drow of the Underdark is probably the only source that conflicts with it.

Me and EX- DM Breaknova a long time back had to deal with this same issue and created a way around the rule to only include male spiders as they are the weaker of the two. So this was atleast our work around. But yes someone probably that wrote that part in the book of Drow of the underdark wasn't keeping everything in order.
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PostSubject: Re: The Tenets of Lloth   The Tenets of Lloth EmptySat Jul 07, 2012 4:51 pm

Oh yeah, in this instance I completely agree with you - and the 'male spiders only' thing is the perfect workaround. I just thought that throwing in the actual sources for the proscription and exception might be helpful incase someone's confused.
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PostSubject: Re: The Tenets of Lloth   The Tenets of Lloth EmptySat Jul 07, 2012 5:05 pm

If I may ask...
How many females in lolth society, specially priesthood, will stop, ask what gender the spider killed was, and pass judgement later?
This is the first time I have ever heard of 'male spiders' being 'safe' to slay in Lolthian society.
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PostSubject: Re: The Tenets of Lloth   The Tenets of Lloth EmptySat Jul 07, 2012 5:17 pm

//From when Gandruff did a whole series of sermons on the Tenets, these are what was used. If any wish to discuss changing the decision on server lore to exclude the eating of spiders altogether, no matter the gender, that should be moved to a suggestions thread, IMO. This is simply an effort to post the Tenets where people can find them easily when asked about them during RP. //
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PostSubject: Re: The Tenets of Lloth   The Tenets of Lloth EmptySat Jul 07, 2012 6:35 pm

Vanelier wrote:
//From when Gandruff did a whole series of sermons on the Tenets, these are what was used. If any wish to discuss changing the decision on server lore to exclude the eating of spiders altogether, no matter the gender, that should be moved to a suggestions thread, IMO. This is simply an effort to post the Tenets where people can find them easily when asked about them during RP. //

And thank you for posting them. I neeed a handy source, very much appreciated.

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