pvp in the beetle cave (is this allowed?)

This is merely a question, as the whole affair seemed very silly to me.

I was on my lvl1 drow in the beetle cave,minding my own business. Someone walks by. My character says something along the lines of "the way is clear to pass".

Next I get what seems a bait to pvp me. Saying my character does not follow Lloth, claiming She was rude.. and so on. Then a Long sentence in English, combined with Drow words followed.

Now here's the issue: I am non-english speaking, I can read and write it fine. But long sentences, take a while for me to understand, and respond too. And that's exactly what didnt happen.. I didnt get the time to respond, so finally got annoyed by that.

Next I know that character walks off, fine.. I continiue on the beetle hunt, then that character comes at my character again, and strikes her with a one-hit to 2 hp. Got out, and didnt go about it IC any futher. (too flaming annoyed at pvp'ers) of such nature.

But here is my question, is pvp of lvl1 characters alowed, even when they hardly give a reason? Yes it's UD, Drow are jerks blah.. but there should be a difference between IC jerks and OOC ones. I feel that the above bordered OOC. If you cant deal with my character's sence of humour, or dont have the patience to wait for me to even understand what you've just typed, please dont interact with my character(s) then.

I do my best, but there is a limit to what I can do, and also a limit to my patience with ooc jerks.

Koddos to the ones who helped me so far. =) But I feel the whole pvp things gets out of hand if it allready starts in the flying beetle cave over silly, trivial things, like the above.

If there is a language barrier, try and send a OOC tell to them and say hey I am having a hard time in English. I think that might have made a world of difference in how the result were. Also no one knows exactly what level you are.

If you find yourself in a situation like this, and they do not offer an RP out or you feel you have been a victim of griefing PLEASE take screenshots and send them to the DM staff. Without proof of who was involved or why we cannot really do much.

With that said, no one knows your exact level, but they can get a general idea if you are hunting beetles and it takes you a few rounds just to kill one. If what you said is true, I would say it was rather bad form by the opposing player. If we are going to initiate PvP for any reason, we should at least take some time to hear the other person out and allow for RP that can make things much more interesting and engaging in the short term and in the long run.

Well if you go into the beetle cave, chances are quite steep you'll run into low levels =p

But yes I understand to take screens ect. in case of a grieving incident. I wasnt sure, maybe I did something wrong but honestly couldnt figure out what. (apart from playing a character that at least has some sence of humour, which is rare anywhere =p )

PvP happening between drow houses, or surfacer/Underdark conflicts I can understand based of rp before and after. But pvp happening right away in the starter cave I cannot. (unless having a good, very good reason)

I recommend you also reading up on our pvp rules. Just by being on a map by no means gives protection from pvp. If you choose to opt out of PVP than do so. If the person refuses letting you opt out, a SS will help staff deal with that infraction.

Another incident, who do I need to send a screenshot too?

I'm getting really tired at these players who bait you into pvp, even when you do absolutely nothing to provoke it.

Drow does not equal 24/7 pvp.

You can send it to me.

we arent all bad

Somehow, I wonder if the majority of this is simply a matter of miscommunication. If this is the one I'm thinking of where Jenniffer and the orc fought or whatever it was. I kinda didn't realize there was pvp until I realized the female poofed and there was combat log text.

Anywho!

I don't know about the other griefy thangs that other players might've done before the whole interaction between Jenn and Nath's group, but if it's any consolation, I didn't see anything griefy about the whole issue Tense, perhaps. On the edge of conflict? Pooooossibly. IC? I would hope so

Although I do understand that some players simply don't find conflict fun, or rp involving a level of tension, and as a fellow player I totally respect that. Not my cup of tea but to each their own



Btw I was the one playin' 'Vaerindrar' the drow dudeguybro that was present being all servile and brown-noseish to Nathzyne.

Also I kind of lost where I was going with this. I guess a TL:DR thingy -> All IC, Respect RP-Styles that dislike Conflict/Tension/Violence and uh... Thats it


Totally just remembered a random tidbit.

During the conversation I dinged and hit level 2 so technically you helped me level

Okay well now the whole jenny-Orc thing of yesterday is in the open here is my side of it all..

This is pvp incident 2 within a week or so where Jen is accused of herecy-not following Lloth based on what.. her saying Hi to someone else. I'm all for tension, conflict and so on, but it needs to have some rp basis, at least. In both incidents it came over as a silly reason to start pvp.

I got really on edge yesterday when I saw the Orc hostiling me, while he stood right next to Jen. In the beetle cave, this is waiting for a Beetle to spawn and he would Cleave jen, starting a pvp fight. Which - was exactly what started it. Beetle spawned on top of us, I tried to kill it before the Orc player did, and failed. Orc killed it, cleaved Jen.

I'm not anti conflict, but with a given reason and purpose. Which UD rp thankfully is most of the time.. so no hard feelings.

The standing next to someone hostiled, then waiting for a spawn to happen with cleave as a feat is a known Grief trick in the past, on the same level of taunt. It seems as if you had no control over starting a fight.

I respect any player who likes conflict, but please dont force it upon those (especially lowbies just starting in the Beetle cave) who arent ready, or havent given any reason for it in their rp.

That, or kick Jen to the Eili camp, good too =p (I have a feeling jennie is too friendly or something.. anyways)

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That, or kick Jen to the Eili camp, good too =p (I have a feeling jennie is too friendly or something.. anyways)

Some Eilistraeens still have fangs not all is too friendly

BWUAHAHA more conversion RP If Eili rp is in your plotting shoot us a PM and we will work that out for you.. unfortunately as i tell all players who choose this.. Inside our glade is peaceful out side every one looks for a reason to kill you.

Personal belief High level drow should not be going to Beetle cave to look for people to pick on... Drow life is so much more than beating on others.

Generally only time my drow goes into the beetle cave is to either head to the bar or to sit back and watch so I can scout out potentials to watch the progress of

there were high levels involved?

There aren't any high level Orcs in the Underdark. Let the DM's know who is griefing you and it will stop, they are very good at making you wish you had followed the rules

Guys I am going to lock it. No need to air the laundry. Just send it to the DMs for future issues.