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Tibus_Heth
Posts : 511 Join date : 2012-02-16
| Subject: Non-Cleric Religious Ranks Sun Mar 11, 2012 12:40 pm | |
| Whilst the material I can find around on the internet is clear enough on the ranks, role, etc of the Clergy with in the cult of Lolth, it's less transparent on other cult ranks. In particular, I'm pondering Divine Seeker of Lolth. Are there Yath'velgarn to mirror the Yath'sargtlin? Would they join a House in addition to the Temple in the same way that priestess do? What would their relative rank be? Any and all opinions welcome, I'm not fortunate enough to have the towering stack of Drow reference material many here do. | |
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Jeremor
Posts : 212 Join date : 2011-06-07 Age : 34 Location : SC, USA
| Subject: Re: Non-Cleric Religious Ranks Sun Mar 11, 2012 1:20 pm | |
| So far as I've seen ingame, if you draw upon any substantial amount of Lolth's divine powers, then you are a yath and treated as one. The faith is not secondary to anything. Having three levels of shadowdancer or something like that would just make you a relatively sneaky Yathrin, not an entirely different rank.
However, if you're asking about being an assassin that is closely linked with the worship of Lolth...
http://forgottenrealms.wikia.com/wiki/Dread_fang
Dread Fang's of Lolth are pretty close to that. They serve noble houses and the Spider queen, and I believe there's some lore that they hear Lolth's whispered guidance constantly or something. I'm not so sure on that last bit though. Mostly they just seem like somewhat 'holy' assassins. I think they'd be more similar to the PrC Black Flame Zealot than Divine Seeker.
In the hierarchy, I guess they'd be considered somewhere above a 'normal' male assassin, the cream of the crop so to speak, but still below a devoted priestess. Like a Yath'sargtlin is to normal warriors. | |
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Vanelier
Posts : 703 Join date : 2011-12-13 Age : 31 Location : Somewhere between Genius and Insanity.
| Subject: Re: Non-Cleric Religious Ranks Sun Mar 11, 2012 1:43 pm | |
| I would say, if you call on the divine for 3 levels or more, you'll have "Yath'somethingorother" as a title.
In this case, you might either get labeled with "Yath'abban" (like female Blackguards of Lloth do) or "Yath'velg'larn" as you thought. | |
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gandruff
Posts : 1506 Join date : 2011-08-18 Age : 34 Location : England
| Subject: Re: Non-Cleric Religious Ranks Sun Mar 11, 2012 2:22 pm | |
| Do have to bear in mind lolth doesnt give any divine power to males, selvetarn her champion however does. Also pretty sure the rank of Yath'velg'larn doesnt exist, assasins who work for the Yath look at dread fangs of lolth. Yath'sargtlin are pretty much the hand of the yath answering to them first and their quellar if they have one second and are the only time a male may be allowed to enter the temple and not be killed for it.
Ranks don't work by sticking yath at the start the only time that happens is with yath'sargtlin.
Most females that recieve some kind of divine power from lolth can become a yath'abban but only favored souls, eldritch disciples and clerics can advance past that rank to yathrin | |
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Tibus_Heth
Posts : 511 Join date : 2012-02-16
| Subject: Re: Non-Cleric Religious Ranks Sun Mar 11, 2012 2:37 pm | |
| The potentially-divine-seeker character is female, with the only 'divine' levels being Divine Seeker (i.e. no cleric levels etc). Hence my being unsure as to the place within the hierarchy she'd occupy. The Dread Fang concept does seem to fit fairly well, I'm just trying to establish the IC repercussions of the (admittedly non-spellcasting) divine gifts the class grants.
(Since it's come up as an IC query a few times, the character is low-born, hence the lack of clerical power/training.) | |
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Vanelier
Posts : 703 Join date : 2011-12-13 Age : 31 Location : Somewhere between Genius and Insanity.
| Subject: Re: Non-Cleric Religious Ranks Sun Mar 11, 2012 5:09 pm | |
| I thought you have to have divine levels of some kind to even take divine seeker? I might be wrong though. | |
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Norlamin Arborshate
Posts : 206 Join date : 2011-12-05 Age : 37
| Subject: Re: Non-Cleric Religious Ranks Sat Mar 17, 2012 8:24 am | |
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