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citizensnips
Posts : 450 Join date : 2011-10-16
| Subject: Re: To the group calling itself wardens Wed Nov 16, 2011 2:54 pm | |
| (( paladins are more conservative than clerics are in the church of lathander... all part of the game | |
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FunnyHatOfDeath
Posts : 331 Join date : 2011-06-10
| Subject: Re: To the group calling itself wardens Wed Nov 16, 2011 3:02 pm | |
| *wytrhan goes about ripping down all the notices and places one up to show the resolution*
1. The Dawn Lord has and will offer to the Wardens their church to meet as long as Elric oversees the meetings and has the power to remove them if they mistreat the chruch in any way. This offer has been communicated to the Wardens.
2. Wythran, while representing the city, has recommend that the Wardens cut ties with the chruch all togehter and simply move their meetings. This isn't a snub to the chruch or the Wardens, but it is obvioulsy a very volatale situation - so why tempt fate. The offered location is forth comming.
3. THe matter of the 'mad archer' is being seen to by the City and as such Elric has agreed to let the matter drop trusting that it will be seen to. He also agreed that since a soluation presented itself that there is no longer a need to continue the large use of paper.
Wytrhan Tal Son of Sheverash Deputy to Ffar | |
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Navarre_Sallavarian
Posts : 825 Join date : 2011-04-19 Location : Brazil
| Subject: Re: To the group calling itself wardens Wed Nov 16, 2011 3:28 pm | |
| Sad to hear all that happens,
We've been having our weekly meetings in Lathander's Temple for years, since the first or second year of the Zhentarim invasion, with full support and authorization of all clerics,
I dont know this Paladin Elric Lightsmane, never saw him there and never talked with him about the Wardens,
I never thought we could have this kind of problems and disrespectful offensive treatment from the Temple or from Myth Drannor, since we are close friends and allies, having saving and protecting the City and the Temple together many times in the past,
If a compleatly unknown and newly arrived person, with no knowledge of the recent history of Drannor can speak with us in this "low tone" without severe reprimands, maybe the time has come for the Wardens to really left the city once and forever,
But the only person Who could officialy spoke for the Wardens is our Leader, Sinjin the Monk of the Sun Soul,
Priestess of Chauntea Julia Navarre Sallavarian Harvestmistress of Myth Drannor Member of the Warden's High Council
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citizensnips
Posts : 450 Join date : 2011-10-16
| Subject: Re: To the group calling itself wardens Wed Nov 16, 2011 3:34 pm | |
| It seems the wardens are only capable of discourse through public profanity.. it saddens me to know servents of the light acting in this manner. Myself or Dawnmaster Castor Lyonald are available for discussion should you choose to do so in appropriate ways.
Signed Elric Lightsmane Former Dawnmaster of the church of the morninglord Currently Knight Protector of the order of the aster
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FunnyHatOfDeath
Posts : 331 Join date : 2011-06-10
| Subject: Re: To the group calling itself wardens Wed Nov 16, 2011 3:34 pm | |
| Be aware Harvestmistress that the City is not associated with this event and is attempting to resolve the issue by offering you a place to meet, without oversight, within the city. It has yet to be determined where, but meetings occur as we speak.
Wytrhan Tal Son of Shevarash
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The Coronal
Posts : 570 Join date : 2011-03-18
| Subject: Re: To the group calling itself wardens Wed Nov 16, 2011 3:35 pm | |
| Julia Navarre
We have heard your name many times and always in the context of help, aid and general goodness. We do not wish you to leave, not at all and will ensure a meeting place for the Wardens. Please speak with Us if We can aid.
Signed
Ilsevele MiriatarThe Coronal | |
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FunnyHatOfDeath
Posts : 331 Join date : 2011-06-10
| Subject: Re: To the group calling itself wardens Wed Nov 16, 2011 4:11 pm | |
| *to the Wardens*
To further yoru endeavors and to remove this situation from possible further issue. The Coronal has extended the use of the Temple of the Seladrine for your meeting place. We ahve faith you will be respectful of it as you always have and place of Worship. In this I speak on the Coronal's behalf. You are welcome there.
Wythran Tal Son of Shevarash Deputy to Ffar
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citizensnips
Posts : 450 Join date : 2011-10-16
| Subject: Re: To the group calling itself wardens Wed Nov 16, 2011 4:17 pm | |
| In one final notice i'll say it again clearly :
The wardens may use the church by order of the dawnmaster i simply wish to see that no harm comes to pass as a result. Seek me out if you wish for this matter.
Signed Elric Lightsmane Knight Protector Of The Order Of The Aster
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The Coronal
Posts : 570 Join date : 2011-03-18
| Subject: Re: To the group calling itself wardens Wed Nov 16, 2011 4:20 pm | |
| *The Coronal reinforces the Deputy's offer but the offer is made in goodwill and whatever the wardens decide she will support it* | |
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Navarre_Sallavarian
Posts : 825 Join date : 2011-04-19 Location : Brazil
| Subject: Re: To the group calling itself wardens Wed Nov 16, 2011 4:20 pm | |
| "Personal letter delivered by a messenger"
Dear Wythran, old friend,
I'm really compleately and profoundly personally offended by the attitudes of this alleged Paladin, of course that the final word belongs to our Leader Sinjin,
but as a Member of the Warden's High Council, I'll strongly recommend him to ask for severe reprimands to this man, and that he has to make a public apology, the Wardens has previous and official rights to meet at the Temple, from a time that this alleged Paladin didn't even exist,
He was stupid and extremely disrespectful with us without even bothering to know who we are and what we represent,
Thank you for your effort and attention, but I think we'll keep our meetings at the same place as always,
Please send my Regards to the Coronal and tell her that I miss our meetings and pleasant conversations,
Lets wait for Sinjin to the final word,
Blessings,
Julia.
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Skyiba
Posts : 2105 Join date : 2009-03-08 Age : 50 Location : guess
| Subject: Re: To the group calling itself wardens Wed Nov 16, 2011 4:27 pm | |
| *blue mage lets it be known enough argueing from both sides one would gather he is sincere in his believe both sides are good and is abit more than agitated they bicker with each other when it is simple discussion would solve it*
ok enough is enough people we are adults we may not see eye to eye at times we have to agree to disagree and yes the city will be seeing to the matter of the mad archer..
when my house is in order i will offer a alternate meeting place for the wardens until then lets be civilized and let the rest drop..
options are allow elric to over see the meetings move to a new location for meetings with in the city or heads of groups meet and discuss matters of using temple as a meeting place and their concerns and reach a agreeable choice for both sides which i suggest a neutral party be present to listen to each sides words.
please people i understand both sides now understand me we all protect the city refugee's each other in our own ways.. let the matter drop and be civil to each other..
if you do so you will get much further than you do butted heads constantly..
as i said when my place is in order i will offer it for a meeting place for the wardens if it needs be..
i know both groups i trust both groups i like both groups i am an unofficial/official member of wardens as i have not recieved conformation of such yet..
we do seek to do good and no this isnt our finest hour by far..
we must use tact here as well as answer questions about the wardens which may be the main concern of the church as the new leaders do not know of us or our stance on situation and this bickering back and forth has not aided either party..
it is only serving the evil in the lands and driving a wedge between what could be strong allies in the fight for good in the lands..
i will personaly meet with who wants to and mediate if needs be.. i am open to questions as well for those that wish to ask..
we must set the example for others to follow we must be open to new ideas as well as teach others of our kin and friends alike questions arise and as such we must be ready to answer them as best we can..
i expect better from my fellow wardens if i am indeed apart of the group.. as well as i expect better from the church..
the church has made its positon know and is willing to discuss this further if needs be i expect the wardens to do the same and politely as well the churches new leaders do not know past what they have seen so far and it isnt the best we have to offer that we have shown..
we are both good groups we seek to do whats best for the people and protect them as we can.. we should do so with dignity honor patience as well as tolerance.. not hatred anger bigitry intolerence..
the city itself is not envolved and is only trying to aide both sides in diffusing the situation peacefully and is offering ways to do such.. past this they have nothing more to do with it and seeing to the incident with the mad archer..
this is all the city is trying to do nothing more nothing less should be interpreted from it..
i my self do not tolerate allies fighting amongst them selves this is not the appropriate way allies act... we will solve this there will be peace..
as a people in whole there is nothing we cant do so lets put away all preconceptions of each other that drives a wedge between us and become one people again if we do so i promis you there is nothing we cant achieve..
together we are strong formidable and our enemies will fear and tremble beneath our might.
divided we are weak frail and laughable and we will fail in all things..
undertsanding tolerance respect and willingness to learn from each other and sharing of knowledge will be key to this as well as kindness and a genuine feeling of unity..
this will all come with time from all..
Blue Mage | |
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The Coronal
Posts : 570 Join date : 2011-03-18
| Subject: Re: To the group calling itself wardens Wed Nov 16, 2011 4:30 pm | |
| *The Coronal supports the Blue Mage's views and suggests that this is utterly ridiculous.
Julia's view should be respected, and from now on the whole matter should be dropped* | |
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Navarre_Sallavarian
Posts : 825 Join date : 2011-04-19 Location : Brazil
| Subject: Re: To the group calling itself wardens Wed Nov 16, 2011 4:45 pm | |
| *Julia reads Blue's note and thinks*
"Wise as always Blue, thank you for your kind words dear friend, hope see you soon. Now this matter is in Sinjin's hands, may he be blessed." | |
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Skyiba
Posts : 2105 Join date : 2009-03-08 Age : 50 Location : guess
| Subject: Re: To the group calling itself wardens Wed Nov 16, 2011 4:56 pm | |
| you are most welcome my friend as always i simple wish there be peace for us all so we may grow stronger and more unified as a whole..
a rather simple wish but only time may grant such.. i truly hate to see good people fight when their is no true need that peaceful talks could solve and serve to better unite us as a whole..
i am truly not in balance when it occurs the hatred and anger brings a side of me out i wish to not see..
as a result sometime as a last attempt for peace my thoughts come out more strong and occasionaly more clear.. i truly hope i did not offend anyone with them..
i am nothing more than a simple person with simple ideals and a wish in my heart for all to see.. | |
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FunnyHatOfDeath
Posts : 331 Join date : 2011-06-10
| Subject: Re: To the group calling itself wardens Wed Nov 16, 2011 5:05 pm | |
| *a Letter to Julia*
Move your meeting until this issue is resolved. Do not walk into the pwoder keg of a situation. Simply take a differnt route until tis resolved.
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Gjallahorn
Posts : 881 Join date : 2010-11-18 Age : 42 Location : Denmark
| Subject: Re: To the group calling itself wardens Wed Nov 16, 2011 5:37 pm | |
| *as Castor takes a walk though the temple he sees the posts hanging around..he stops for a moment*
All this, because a rude elf chose to shot a blunt arrow at a devout paladin..
*shakes his head*
...It would apear that all my effots to calm this down has been to no avail. And my message to this Aramil that any friend of the most honored Master Sinjin is welcomed into the house of the Morning Lord...have been either ignored, forgotten or both.....Only Lathander knows why I bother...
*faint smile as he looks to the altar*
Because I certainly have no clue..
*with his hands folded behing his back he walks upstairs to have a word with a devout Knight about the nature of action and reaction....* | |
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Gjallahorn
Posts : 881 Join date : 2010-11-18 Age : 42 Location : Denmark
| Subject: Re: To the group calling itself wardens Thu Nov 17, 2011 9:21 am | |
| *open letter adressed to the Wardens, master Blue, master Wythran, The Coronal and Knight Protecter Elric*
I write this in a final attempt to settle this matter, witch in all rights should not have been a matter of such hard words from the beginning.
The most honorable master Sinjin and his friends, the wardens have a most rightfull place within the halls of our Morning Lord, who we all revere and respect.
The most honorable master Sinjin has tended the gardens and fields at the farms, and has been a friend and suport to the old Abbot at the church for a very long time. Likewise has his gathering of friends, called the Wardens, indeed never done anything to derserve harsh words form anyone connected to our most beloved church.
Knight Protecter, Brother Elric has spoken out of place and against better knowing in his demands, and his tone has been unnessesary harsh, useing demands where friendly inquries would have been wiser. In this I agree with all my heart and the wisdom granted me by the Morninglord's grace.
The Defender Aramil, who I belive is allso a member of the Wardens, have antagonised Brother Elric in his blunt and rude manner in witch he aproached Brother Elrics, all be it wrongly set, demands. Indeed allso master Aramil is guilty in useing harsh, rude and demanding retoric, where again friendly inquries would have served the honorable Defender Aramil much better.
So in casting insults both are to blame, and it is my hope that the way things have unfolded after these rather undiplomatic exchange of words, will serve as a firm reminder to both that the conseqvenses of ones actions and words, should be considered before the first stone is cast.
I was told by one of the Defenders that an old woodelf, now passed on, used to teach his fellow defenders that one should allways consider carefully what one took a shot at. Once the arrow is losed, its path is not easyly changed and the same could be said with words. Perhaps this lesson needs to be repeated, to all sides involved in this.
Brother Elrics veiw on the Wardens is based on his meeting with Defender Aramil, just as Defender Aramils veiw on our church is now based on his meeting with Brother Elric.
I believe both have gotten the wrong impression of the eachother.
There is no conflict here, rather than that between two mortals who both should look inward and seach themselves asking: Should I not have acted wiser?
To speak against the wardens pressence in our beloved temple, would be to speak against the Morning Lord himself, for we all know he looks with joy on those who supports adventureres who do good deeds, even more so when the deed is done in the name of Lathander.
In that light I look foreward to hearing the Wardens gathering in our church for their next meeting, and I look foreward to greet and welcome each and everyone of the wardens into the house of the Morninglord. And especially do I look foreward to finaly meet the most honorable Master Sinjin, who I have heard nothing but good things about.
And most importantly, do I look foreward to knowing, that by the Wardens meeting under the roof of our church, the will of Our Lord Lathander is followed, both in heart and by letter.
It is my hope this matter will, the above in mind, at last be settled so that we may retun to the matters at hand.
With the best regards and blessings in the name of The Morning Lord. Dawn Master Castor Lyonald | |
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Navarre_Sallavarian
Posts : 825 Join date : 2011-04-19 Location : Brazil
| Subject: Re: To the group calling itself wardens Thu Nov 17, 2011 10:12 am | |
| "Personal letter delivered by a messenger at Lathander's Temple in Myth Drannor Farmlands"
Sacred Dawnmaster Castor Lyonald,
I was absolutely sure that the Wisdom I've always believed exists in the Morning Lord's Clergy would prevail at the end, and your wise words came in the right time to prove that,
Thank you for keeping your long commitment with the Wardens to allow us to continue gathering inside your holy walls, as I assumed you would,
Aramil is a crazy bastard pain in the a... well, I think you understood. I must confess to you sir that I myself already thought, more then once, about kick his but a few times with my plate boots,
But another thing I can garantee is certain too, is that he is one of the most loyal companions I ever saw in a battlefield, I could put my life in his hands anytime, anyplace. I dont know many scouts and archers I could have the honor to cover my back in a battle with so accurate tracking and arrows. I could invade the Gates of the Nine Hells to save his life and I know he would do the same for me and for anyone he was bind to, as a Captain of the Defenders of Myth Drannor and a Warden,
That said, for me the incident is completely overcomed with nothing else to add, but of course our Leader Sinjin will officially speek with you sir,
Now I would like to talk about things that really matters, if possible Dawnmaster, could we please schedule a meeting with the Coronal to discuss some ideas for our Harvest Festival in Myth Drannor and Farmlands as same as they are doing in Shadowdale?
Please come to visit us in our Shrine, will be an honor to welcome you,
May the Mother of us all bless you and your brothers and sisters,
Priestess of Chauntea Julia Navarre Sallavarian Harvestmistress of Myth Drannor Member of the Warden's High Council
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enigma
Posts : 249 Join date : 2011-06-11
| Subject: Re: To the group calling itself wardens Thu Nov 17, 2011 11:09 am | |
| As the Abbot hears about the letter that Dawn Master Castor has sent, he sits down at his study table and writes:
"Lathander be praised! How true the saying is, that we are one body yet many parts. Each part serves its purpose and every part is connected. These past days, the manifold wisdom and righteous zeal of the Morninglord has been manifested in the leaders of our Church in a most profound way... ..."
Two full scrolls later, Elijah puts down his quill, finishes up his monastery duties and spends the rest of the afternoon at the orphanage where he volunteers. The parable for the children this afternoon is The Mysterious Ways of the Gods. | |
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Skyiba
Posts : 2105 Join date : 2009-03-08 Age : 50 Location : guess
| Subject: Re: To the group calling itself wardens Thu Nov 17, 2011 12:58 pm | |
| *a sealed letter arrives in a bluish silver mithral tube addressed to the Dawn Master Castor Lyonald*
your words of wisdom are most appreciated and i agree to all you said..
that being said i must inform you i have gained a respect for you and the church.. you provide sound guidance as well..
i am impressed dawn master very much so..
Blue Mage
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MustangSVT Admin
Posts : 6071 Join date : 2010-07-06 Location : Canada
| Subject: Re: To the group calling itself wardens Thu Nov 17, 2011 1:25 pm | |
| Hearing news of this conflict, one of the higher-ranked priests of the temple sends out a letter to Elric Lightsmane as well as a letter for the Wardens. He indicates that he wishes to meet with the Knight and one of the representatives of the Wardens to settle this dispute. | |
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MustangSVT Admin
Posts : 6071 Join date : 2010-07-06 Location : Canada
| Subject: Re: To the group calling itself wardens Sat Nov 19, 2011 3:36 pm | |
| After hearing the recent words of Dawn Master Castor, the priest decides to call off the meeting for the time being as the matter appears to be resolved. He makes sure to send a message to brother Castor that his continued efforts are welcome by the church. | |
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